Well, we've been hearing a lot of great feedback about these lists, including Phil Ringnalda's comments which point out some concerns that he has with the way the spec re-uses element names which are technically defined in someone else's namespace. In Phil's comments, Matthew Gertner, and Tim Bray suggest a different structure, which I'll reproduce here: User-readable name for the element User-readable name for the group I think this is better. It still keeps the basic idea of helping the consuming app to present useful information to its clients, and its easier for people to parse. So... what do people think? This is an easy change to make, and if the community is in favour, I will make change the spec to this format.